| Oct 18 |  7:25 PM  | 
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| Oct 18 |  7:30 PM  | 
| soli | has entered the room  | 
| Mark M. | 
     howdy, soli! 
    
  
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| soli | 
     Hi Mark! 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     how can I help you today? 
    
  
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| soli | 
     View paste
 
    
  
  
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| Mark M. | 
     well, all else being equal, you may as well start with CursorAdapter 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     after all, your DB query results will be in the form of a Cursor, right? 
    
  
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| soli | 
     i guess you're right:).. wasn't sure 
    
  
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| Oct 18 |  7:35 PM  | 
| soli | 
     thanks! 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     happy to help! 
    
  
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| soli | 
     have a good night (going to sleep now. 1.30 am here) 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     goodnight! 
    
  
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| Oct 18 |  7:50 PM  | 
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| Oct 18 |  8:00 PM  | 
| Aeounst | has entered the room  | 
| Aeounst | 
     Hey Mark 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     howdy, Aeounst! 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     how can I help you today? 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     I've got an interesting interaction scenario on a large screen 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     i've got a listview in a smaller portion within my larger interface 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     it's totally big enough to fling through and interact via touch 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     but in d-pad only navigation, there's no way to scroll the list 
    
  
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| Oct 18 |  8:05 PM  | 
| Mark M. | 
     you mean the d-pad doesn't allow navigation to give the ListView the focus? 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     what has the focus? 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     you can focus over the listview, but when you press down, it moves the focus to the next item down (as it should) 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     i'd like to be able to use the select button on the d-pad to put focus *inside* the list 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     so that up and down control the list 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     add android:nextFocusDown to the thing above it 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     the value is the ID of the widget that should get the focus when a d-pad down event happens 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     ah i don't think i was being clear... 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     a normal scenario has the user navigating through the controls from top to bottom 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     in the middle is a listview containing N comments 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     oftentimes there are more comments than to show in
 the size of the listview, so it has to scroll (fair enough in a touch 
environment) 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     but in a d-pad only environment, is there a way to
 "select" the listview such that up and down scroll the list (Rather 
than navigate between the controls as it normally does)? 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     well, two things 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     first, it should do that automatically, once it has the focus 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     second, you probably should rethink your UI design 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     you are running into the same sort of navigation issue that they warn you about for Google TV 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     hmmm yeah 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     where is that warning?  would be good to nkow 
    
  
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| Oct 18 |  8:10 PM  | 
| Mark M. | 
     having the ListView at the bottom would be OK, but not the middle, as they'll never get to the stuff below it 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     should be in https://developers.google.com/tv/android/d… 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     ah okay 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     but even if at the bottom, you would have to scroll all the way back to the top of the list view to go to the control above it? 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     yes, go most of the way down that page to "D-pad interaction traps" 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     almost like it needs to be "Stashed" on the left or right side 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     that too 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     right 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     that's what they recommend for TVs 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     ahhh great 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     that's good 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     thanks 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     and for larger screens in landscape, it's usually doable too 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     portrait might get problematic 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     right 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     it's mainly for a TV interface in fact 
    
  
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| Mark M. | 
     oh, well, definitely follow the Google TV guidance -- good stuff there 
    
  
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| Aeounst | 
     awesome.... thanks! 
    
  
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