Hello MArk..

howdy, Aditya!

how can I help you today?

I have been following you since long.. I like the work you do..

I am a Android Developer

thanks!

ok...in my Apps..I use custom keyboard as a custom view and slide it in and out on touch of edittext

I don't include it as a service...so.I have to always hide the soft keyboard..

if you do not want to use the device's hard keyboard or soft keyboard, why are you using an EditText?

Hi

howdy, Lujop!

Lujop: I will be with you momentarily, once Aditya's first question is handled

this has worked marvelously well before JElly Bean..from Jelly bean..I think because of Project butter..when I am pressing a key on my custom keyboard..the sift keyboard tries to push in but hides and this is causing the screen to flash and push my keyboard up....then what would you suggest to use?

*soft

Ok. I wait then. Thank you

why do you have "custom keyboard as a custom view" in the first place? Why not let the user use their own keyboard?

in other words, what are you and the user gaining from this custom keyboard?

The soft keyboard showing up and hiding process is manifesting as a screen flash..because the custom keyboard provides symbols and other keys which are not being used on soft keyboard..greek letters..chemical elements..tan sin functions..and lots of other keys

each of my apps uses a different keyboard..and they have different keys..and I don't want my keyboards to be used by other apps, so I am not using it as a service

keyboards on android are a pain..which I have found out since last 9 months or so

first, I really recommend that your own "custom keyboard" be a supplement to the existing keyboard, not a replacement (i.e., allow the user to use their own keyboard for letters, numbers, etc.)

beyond that, though, I have no idea how to help you

how would I supplement my custom keyboard to the existing keyboard?

start by not trying to fight the existing keyboard, allowing it to appear

also, remove any likely duplicates (letters, numbers)

so you suggest me to have the custom keyboard on top of the soft keyboard? have you seen any instances of people coming up with their own keyboards in their apps?

I cannot answer either of those questions, sorry

let me take a question from Lujop, and I will come back to you shortly

Lujop: do you have a question?

sure..

Yes

I've a problem with FragmentPageAdapter and dynamically inserting pages

I tried with FragmentPagerAdapter and FragmentStatePagerAdapter but I can't get it working without a workarround to discard and create always pages

I've a question on SO with the sample code http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1084023…

I suspect that you will need to create your own custom PagerAdapter, but that is just a guess

Do you have any idea on what can be happening or id I'm doing something wrong?

Mmmm, I look a moment at the code of FragmentPagerAdapter/PagerAdapter

you could also try swapping in a fresh PagerAdapter when you insert stuff, but that too is just a guess

it's a good question, but I just haven't tried this

Yes it seems that the interface support insertion

have you played with returning POSITION_UNCHANGED from getItemPosition()?

But the implementation seems a little trivial

you mentioned POSITION_NONE, but that is for removed pages

mmm, but the position really changes normally

only for the ones after the insertion point

ones before the insertion point are unchanged

Yes, but I need to insert at the second position

the first page would still return POSITION_UNCHANGED

I will try

again, it's just some educated guesses

Aditya: do you have another question, or a follow-up from your first one?

But I think that I will need to go on custom pageradapter as you said.

The major issue was with Keyboards..and I was looking to see if you had any ideas..

trying to block the soft keyboard is just going to be difficult, particularly since this is an area where device manufacturers like to tinker with Android

you are perfectly right..behavior is weird with different devices..

that is why your typical calculator app does not use an EditText

then what you suggest me to use

since I have absolutely no idea what your app is or what you are trying to accomplish, that is impossible for me to answer

ok..I need to type in some stuff and there is computation going on..and the results how up

*show

it is sort of a general calculator..

then I would model your app after existing popular calculator apps

see what they do, and follow suit

for example, I use Droid48

ok...can you name me some..

ok

it has an on-screen keyboard, but it does not use an EditText

I do not know whether they are using a TextView and custom fonts, or are drawing on a Canvas, for rendering the RPN stack

ok

you can find other calculator apps on the Play Store

Lujop: do you have another question?

I will try looking at them..thanks

Can I ask another question?

Lujop: yes

I'm using your MergeAdapter

And until now it works very easy an well

I use addView to add some sort of header rows

and addAdapter for data

The problem is that now I need to have a button in some rows that do a row change

the typeOfView of the row is changed

There isn'tsome support for data invalidation, is there?

the type of a row cannot change, regardless of MergeAdapter

AFAIK, that has to be immutable for the life of the adapter

Woww....

I supposed I can change with notifyDataSetChanged()

you can give that a try

if changing row types works with ArrayAdapter, and does not work with MergeAdapter wrapping around the ArrayAdapter, file an issue on the project, and I'll take a look at it

but I have never seen that done

Mmm, I've seen some applications

I've seen some applications that have like a page advance button for the row

that when pressed changes the content of the row

just because a row changes visually does not mean that getItemViewType() returns a different value

yes, if it doesn't works I will have to play with visibility

or discarding reusedview

or just change the contents of your row view

And if I have some sort of expand rows button in the header views and then call notifyDataSetChanged

MergeAdapter will get the new rows from the managed child adapters, won't it?

it should, yes

if not, that is a bug

Okey. I will have to play on it then. I connected mainly for the first question.

Aditya: do you have another question?

do either of you have another question?

Yes

I've a last one

In current version app I use a DB that is stored in internal memory

For a future version I'm evaluating to move to SD because the DB is quite big

I don't have any questions..Thanks

But the problem is that application needs the DB mainly in all places

starting with API Level 11, internal and external storage should share a partition, and so size is less of an issue

And I don't know if there is a good centralized way

that I can advice the user that application doesn't work like the phone is connected with usb and sd disconnected

Well, in API11 devices I think that the problem in DB size is minor

can you quantify "quite big"?

about 2MB

oh, I really would not worry about that

But there are a quite descent number of users complaining about that

and if you move it to external storage, you will have a decent number of users complaining about that (i.e., unavailable when tethered)

But in general is there a good centralized way to catch up if we haven't external storage

you can listen for the broadcast Intents

ok

Because also I'm plannig to move some other sort of data to the SD

And application won't work without that.

The idea is then to listen itents and leave a global I_CANT_WORK_BECAUSE_NO_SD state...

you will also need to check the state manually, via Environment, for when your app is started up with a fresh process

and that is it for today's chat

Ok I will evaluate that

next chat is Thursday, 10am Eastern Time

have a pleasant day, all!

But I think that will be difficult one

Because when receiving state change there can be working threads...

Ok. Thank you Mark