Sep 9 | 8:50 AM |
Mark M. | has entered the room |
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Sep 9 | 9:15 AM |
Mike R. | has entered the room |
Mike R. |
Hello
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Mark M. |
howdy, Mike!
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Mark M. |
how can I help you this morning?
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Mike R. |
We've received 2 emails from people claiming to
have app stores, but I've never heard of them. Is this a common scam or
people actually trying to start up stores?
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Mark M. |
oh, there's a zillion of 'em
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Mark M. |
whether they're worth your time is a whole 'nuther matter
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Mike R. |
how can you tell?
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Mark M. |
if they are preinstalled on devices (AndAppStore, Motorola's SHOP4APPS), they might be worth considering, for global-focus apps
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Mark M. |
not sure if you have many subscribers outside of the US
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Mark M. |
for the US, it's pretty much just the Android Market
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Mike R. |
we have some, but our most important subscribers are US. That's what the pharma companies are interested in.
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Mark M. |
that's what I figured
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Mike R. |
OTH, is there a way to target stores that are preinstalled on devices?
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Mark M. |
in that case, unless you start getting inquiries
from potential customers that they can't get your app, I wouldn't worry
about it
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Frank S. | has entered the room |
Mike R. |
ok thanks
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Mark M. |
howdy, Frank!
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Frank S. |
good morning Mark
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Sep 9 | 9:20 AM |
Mark M. |
Mike: I know of a few alternative stores that get pre-installed -- AndAppStore, Motorola SHOP4APPS, Archos' own AppsLib
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Mark M. |
there are probably others (carrier-specific stores, etc.)
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Mark M. |
however, I don't have a definitive list
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Mike R. |
thanks mark
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Mark M. |
and they're mostly seen outside of the US
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Mark M. |
Frank: do you have a question?
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Frank S. |
I am trying to find out if it is possible to bundle several applications together
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Mark M. |
use duct tape
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Frank S. |
I have several apps that work together
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Mark M. |
:-)
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Frank S. |
lol, but I only want the user to have to download one thing
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Mark M. |
unfortunately, there's no easy way for that
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Mark M. |
you can give them menu choices and stuff to direct them to your Market pages for the other apps
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Frank S. |
so I am forced to have them download one at a time
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Mark M. |
but the unit of installation is the APK
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Mark M. |
yes
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Mark M. |
I have suggested, on a few occasions, that Android needs a separate container for installs, that might support multiple APKs
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Mark M. |
I have also suggested dependency chains, akin to Linux package managers
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Mark M. |
I still have the bruises from those suggestions :-)
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Frank S. |
hummm. That's too bad. Well thanks for the help. I will just have to do your trick with redirecting them to the Market
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Frank S. |
Oh. I think they are very good ideas
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Mark M. |
yeah, but we don't have to implement them
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Frank S. |
especially because that's exactly what I'm trying to do!
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Sep 9 | 9:25 AM |
Mark M. |
anybody have any other questions?
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Frank S. |
ummm not today. Still trying to figure out about the ActivityGroup
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Mark M. |
I'd ordinarily say "good luck with that", but ActivityGroup and kin make me break out in a rash
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Frank S. |
oh. I guess this goes along the line with that
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Frank S. |
if I make an app widget, will I be able to include that inside of an activity?
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Mark M. |
not easily
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Mark M. |
there should be a way to apply a RemoteViews to yourself, but I haven't gone looking for it
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Frank S. |
Grr. I was really trying to avoid recreating the
exact same HUD in two places, notice that this is also for the app that I
have the ActivityGroup question with, lol
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Sep 9 | 9:30 AM |
Mark M. |
hmmm
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Mark M. |
actually, it might not be too bad
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Mark M. |
RemoteViews has a simple apply() method
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Mark M. |
you give it your activity, plus the ViewGroup that will be the container
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Mark M. |
it returns the View representing the root of the hierarchy, akin to inflate()
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Mark M. |
you'll still need to call addView() on the ViewGroup to attach it
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Mark M. |
the somewhat icky part will be click handling -- you'd still wind up with PendingIntents in that case
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Frank S. |
yes. I am reading the methods you are talking about
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Mark M. |
if that's not desirable, you might need to go back in and patch that up with regular OnClickListeners
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Frank S. |
so that would prevent me from having the widget be interactive, it'll only fire my pendingIntent
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Mark M. |
without additional fix-up work, yes
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Frank S. |
actually, for my purposes that wouldn't be too
bad. The widget will just be displaying data. And I can have the
PendingIntent just fire the preference screen to adjust the settings for
that widget
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Sep 9 | 9:35 AM |
Frank S. |
well Mark, thanks again. If I make any progress on
that ActivityGroup I will be sure to write up a blog to post on my
mobile development page.
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Mark M. |
cool!
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Sep 9 | 9:55 AM |
Mark M. |
any other questions?
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Mike R. | has left the room |
Mark M. |
I'm going to take that as a "no"...
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