howdy, NetApex

Good morning

I've been out of the loop for a bit

loop? there's a loop?

:-)

Lol

Lately I have been putting a lot of effort into fully grasping how JSON works

essentially that coupled with ListView is a very fun concept

howdy, Justin M

Hey there Mark :-) Long time no talk

Just here to watch today :-)

ok

Lol that was my idea as well

Trying to get back into the swing of things

gonna be a quiet chat room

Ok, ya know the "proper" way to do layouts now with the action bar at the top (like the official Twitter client and the I/O 2010 app)... is there a layout tag for that? Like header or something?

there is no built-in ActionBar widget

ok

once the Twitter app is released as open source, we can see how they did it

I do wish they would hurry up with that then

there was a tweet in the last week saying they're getting close

Good, that will be interesting to see

Have either of you played with the Latitude API?

nope

I am sure there is an app mixing Foursquare with Google Places just waiting to be written

i'll take your word on that

I'm not a Foursquare user

I keep trying to be, but it is a hassle more than a reward

So do you use Eclipse or some other program mostly?

Eclipse? Heck no.

Lol, uh oh, what's wrong with Eclipse?

For Android, Komodo IDE and a good command line are my tools in trade

howdy, CalvinS

Hi

NetApex: just never been a big Eclipse fan, that's all

CalvinS: do you have a question?

as fate would have it, it is an Eclipse question!

Lol

CalvinS: go ahead, and I'll try

I added the License Verification Library as a library project in Eclipse

(howdy Geoffrey G and John D -- we'll get to your questions shortly)

when I add it as a reference in my project

using project properties add library project

and ok

it doesn't look like it was applied

I go back into project properties android

and there is a big red X on the LVL library project

I hope I was clear

um, well, you were clear, but my Eclipse knowledge is thin

"big red X" usually means an API level incompatibility

I run into that sometimes when a student has an android-8 project but only an android-7 AVD, for example

hello all and dear kewl android developers

that has nothing to do with library projects though, and they may be using the big red X for some other purpose there

howdy, Hari B -- we'll get to your questions shortly

CalvinS: I haven't played with LVL yet, so I don't know its minimum Android version

but it's an area worth checking out

ok thanks

Geoffrey G: do you have a question?

here with john

OK

Geoffrey G/John D: do the collective "you" have a question? :-)

we are updating the style elements of already rendered views in java and are not getting the results we desire

I don't think there's an API to literally update the style elements

could you explain a bit more about what you mean?

In Java, we have logic to switch the values set by setBackgroundResource, setTextColor, and setShadowLayer on a TextView

We have two TextViews side by side and are trying to create a 'tabbing' effect when switching between the two.

OK...but you haven't really asked a question

is there a means to force a text view to re-render itself?

call invalidate()

that's not typically needed, though

ok, everything looks good the first time through the logic, but all subsequent passes don't seem to have the desired effect

will try

My turn?

Hari B: go ahead

Thanks

I am building tab view

I need to create a gap between the tabs

when I set divider drawable it looks like a mini tab itself. I believe there is some inside offset that I can set but not able to figure out

any thoughts ... right now both tab seem to look joined

I do not believe there is an "inside offset" in TabWidget

You need to adjust your drawable to look how you want

margin may be>

tab or divider?

I do not believe there is an inside margin in TabWidget either

I was referring to the divider drawable

since that's what you said you were working with

ok ... I added divider as I was not able to make them looks separated :-(

changing the divider is the only way I can see on TabWidget where you might be able to "make them looks separated"

you could also consider subclassing TabWidget, and using the TabWidget source code to see what you need to override to change the tab placement rules

Ok. That makes sense

or cloning TabWidget, if subclassing will not give you the desired level of control

tabs in Android are not terribly flexible

ok

Thanks I will try that

anybody else have a question?

Do you have any plans on being near Ohio any time soon?

that depends on your definition of "near"

and, to a lesser extent, on your definition of "Ohio"

:-)

I'm based in eastern PA

A state or two away

Ahh well that is near lol

I have a one-day training session slated in Chicago in September

except for the Eastern part

Is it filled up?

yeah, PA is a rather wide state

good question...hold on...

(Being that I am in the most western part of Ohio)

nope, plenty of seats at the moment

Cool thanks!

forgot to mention it in the newsletter this week :-(

Put out a second one, I doubt anyone would complain

no, I want to stick to my word of only bulk-mailing people once a month

ok last question, the non traditional means of developing (aka not java) like phonegap and titanium... any clear cut favorite?

of the three Web-ish frameworks (PhoneGap, Rhodes, and Appcelerator Titanium Mobile), PhoneGap is least scary

all three could use more seasoning time

PhoneGap is closest to something I'd want to use for production, today

and that's based on my impression from ~2 months ago, and I know they've improved their docs and such since then

ok I will have a look at that then, been meaning to play with Google's online thing too but I keep forgetting

ah, you got an invite?

yeah

I just got my invite, in the past week or so

checked it out yet?

it's one of my projects in and around training during my upcoming two-week sojourn to Malaysia

cool, I await your impression

got a chapter reserved for it in _Android Beyond Java_ :-)

any last questions?

nice hehe

OK, I will try to have some office hours while I'm on the far side of the planet -- gotta see what the hotel Internet connection is like

Guess that is a no

look for some additions to the schedule

beyond that, have a nice day, everyone!

you too