hello, Kai!

how can I help you today?

Hi Mark

I actually don't know. Kinda lurking right now

OK. These chats frequently have few people in them, so there may not be much activity suitable for lurking. But, you are welcome to hang out and see if others show up!

I this also suitable for comments about the functionality of the website?

This chat I mean

if by "the website" you mean commonsware.com or wares.commonsware.com, sure!

if by "the website" you mean this chat itself or community.commonsware.com, I don't control them very much

I noticed that if I log into wares.commonsware.com and then go back to commonsware.com, I have to login again

I wondered if that is reproducible and, if so, if it is by design

technically, you don't have to log in again -- if you have a link to some place past the login screen, you will be able to access that

my login page does not attempt to detect already-logged-in users

I can try to improve that, though I make no promises

I can actually log in, then click on "Commonsware Warescription" in the very top left and be logged out after that.

It would be nice to stay logged in.

I just tried it after you commented, and I was not logged out. However, if you just try visiting https://wares.commonsware.com, that page will not detect that you are already logged in.

So it might be something with my ad stop plugin

but, if you log in, click "CommonsWare Warescription", and then click BACK, you should find that you can continue to navigate around the Warescription site without issue

possibly, but I'm not using anything but a site-local session cookie, so I would not expect an ad blocker to have any issues with the Warescription site

I guess I misunderstood you

I am easily misunderstood-able! :-)

Where do you find the time to write so much?

CommonsWare used to be a full-time endeavor for me

What has changed?

currently, I need to do other work to supplement my writing and other developer relations-style work

The books still are of good quality and the stackoverflow bump service and the office hours are both very nice.

thanks for the kind words!

Do you happen to know how to get all the dependency names for a project within gradle?

Not just the "androidDependencies" task from Android Studio but in a way that something can be done with them in gradle.

I assume that there is a way that you can access the contents of the dependencies {} closure, but I do not know the details

Ok. I have tried a lot of different approaches but didn't find a good one. Was a bit of a long shot

I know enough about Gradle to get by, but I am far from an expert

Ok :)

I wanted the resolved runtime dependencies and it proved quite hard.

yeah, for that, it's not merely a matter of getting access to the dependency list, but doing it sometime after the dependency graph is resolved

and I have no idea how to do that, other than I presume that it is possible

It must be, but I also didn't find a good way

I even had a look at how Android does it in the gradle plugin, but that was hardcore Groovy code and a bit hard to follow

Is it normal to do a lot of... "guessing" when going through a legacy projec?

if you mean "why the heck is X doing Y?" sorts of guesses, yes

More like "I guess this is done here because something could fail if that happened"

yeah, that sort of stuff often comes up as a reaction to some previous problem

it may be that the fix you are seeing is still needed, or it might have been an attempted fix that is no longer necessary

It's especially hard if nothing is commented

yeah, well, that's all too common

That's why I call it "guessing". Because I can just guess why something was done the way it was

I guess this "i" here means "position".

ah, yeah, uninformative variable names are annoying

well, that's a wrap for today's chat

I guess this UI element is blocked because it might get updated somewhere else and that might then fail

Thank you

Have a good time

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have a pleasant day! and stay healthy!

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