hello, Gabriele

how can I help you today?

hi Mark :)

always working on my irc client app, I have a small list of functions (eg. change user nickname) on the navigation drawer and I think it would be better to categorize them by putting a section separator, or a sliding section.

I have to do a similar thing on the user list in the channel, by ordering these users (before the user which moderate the channel, put a symbol before them, ...)

as I think these things are similar I'm asking to you if you know a library or something, so that I can customize the navigation drawer and the user list

the navigation drawer is usually just a ListView

hence, anything you would use for a ListView should work for a ListView in a navigation drawer

so you confirm I can use the same library tu customize it

oh nice, there are a lot

plus things like my CWAC-Merge library: https://github.com/commonsguy/cwac-merge

(in particular, I don't know how to order the users' nickname in the list, should I wrote my own adapter and overwrite something?)

sort the data before you put it in the adapter

I assume that these nicknames are part of some POJO data model in an array that you are wrapping in an ArrayAdapter

what pojo is?

if so, sort the array by nickname before wrapping it in the ArrayAdapter

"Plain Old Java Object"

ah, yes, exactly

as opposed to a Cursor, for example

ok, so I can sort them easily, but then how can I add a symbol before a user, if for example he is a channel moderator?

that would be in your ArrayAdapter implementation, for formatting the rows

no different than putting a symbol before some text in any ListView

ok, thank you

last question

how is the notification list called, like the one there is on google plus?

well, I do not use Google+

particularly on Android

oh! :P

so I do not know what the "notification list" is

let me see if I can find it

it is like a navigation drawer, but on the right

that is probably part of the same DrawerLayout that they use for the left

"As per the Android Design guide, any drawers positioned to the left/start should always contain content for navigating around the application, whereas any drawers positioned to the right/end should always contain actions to take on the current content. This preserves the same navigation left, actions right structure present in the Action Bar and elsewhere."

can I have two navigation drawer? one to the left and one to the right?

yes

"Add drawers as child views after the main content view and set the layout_gravity appropriately."

can notifications be consider actions on the current content?

::shrug::

e.g. a user receives a privat emessage

private*

apparently the Google+ authors think so

personally, I wouldn't

me neither

in part because users may not realize the drawer on the right exists

on google plus, when a new notification is send, a number on the drawer button appears (eg. 1)

with red color, so users tap on it

and I thought I can do the same thing for private messages, on my app

then tapping the user know Mark sent a message to me, and by tapping on the message, they jump to the "private window"

is what you want technically possible? yes

I do not know enough of the overall GUI design of your app to be able to say whether it is a good model here

and I haven't given much thought to writing live chat clients like this

it is like this: https://lh4.ggpht.com/UOmDfNqqUW8_dOSfZ_qVapytc...

but on the left I have the navigation drawer with common actions (join a new channel, change the nickname, ...)

well, actions should go in the action bar

the navigation drawer is for navigating to different major areas within your app

so "change the nickname" IMHO does not belong in a navigation drawer

this is true, too

however, a chat client is not the sort of app for which the standard navigation drawer rules are envisioned

I will think about it, but thank you very much as always! :P

eheh

so if you want to deviate from those rules, and you think the user will not get confused, that's your call

from what I think, I'm using the navigation drawer like a... server/network actions drawer

so that the user has a separate location to do globally actions

else I will have to create a new fragment in the viewpager, for the server/network

but to me this seems more complicate, to the user

anyway I will think about it

oh, a last question (didn't remember of this), how is the icon that I find everywhere to send messages?

that "triangle"

named*

um

do you mean the one in your screenshot to the right of the EditText?

I think it is from android: https://lh4.ggpht.com/8jPipoemhlZ-P7uUpFHaqbZ05...

yes

I have no idea

eheh ok Mark! Thank you very much, as always :)

you are very welcome

I ended up with my questions, have a good day :)

you too!

can you remember me the chat archive url?

I always miss it

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