Office Hours — Today, April 19

Thursday, April 14

Apr 19
7:25 PM
Mark M.
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7:30 PM
fitz
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7:35 PM
fitz
hello
Mark M.
howdy, fitz!
how can I help you today?
fitz
I am beyond help today :)
Mark M.
why? Tax Day was yesterday
fitz
so I an on tutorials running 17-lacation
trying to figure out this mess with keystore
Mark M.
that would be the 18-Map tutorial
fitz
as I understand it keystore in Eclipse already runs in background and in IntelliJ it does as well
Mark M.
you don't need a keystore just to get location data
fitz
ya sorry 18-maps and looking at 19
Mark M.
um, I'd phrase it more that all the build processes automatically sign your APK
unless you stipulate manually that you want an unsigned APK
fitz
but you say we need an API key - link goes to Google and this MD5 fingerprint
Mark M.
yes
fitz
so do I need to get this MD5 fingerprint from 3rd party
7:40 PM
Mark M.
no
you follow the instructions on the Google Add-On site
specifically start with "Getting the MD5 Fingerprint of the SDK Debug Certificate"
that's where I link you to at the bottom of page 217
"Full instructions for doing this can be found on the Android developer site", with 'Android developer site' being a hyperlink
fitz
ok will look it over - question on google apps and tying into them, can we do this for free gmail accounts or does a user have to be a google apps paid user ($50/yr)
Mark M.
beats the heck out of me
I've never used a GData API in my life outside of C2DM
fitz
ok just thought I would ask
Mark M.
oh, that's not true
I wrote a little script to update my Gmail sig
but I have zero experience with Google Docs via API
fitz
you see music clouds are forming :)
Mark M.
???
7:45 PM
fitz
Amazon anouncing the 5GB free to store music - and if you buy music from them they automatically store it for you for free - idea being you link all your devices to the cloud account and you can play the music
Google is about to do the same - should be interesting to see
Mark M.
oh
I was trying to figure out where "music clouds" tied into Google Docs
and map API keys
fitz
big boys are going to hammer it out - wonder what the music industry thinks :)
Mark M.
what's interesting is that the "music industry" apparently really isn't all that big
Amazon or Google could buy a major record label outright without batting an eye
fitz
map API - I just need to read up on it more - music cloud is the talk of the town - I would think you will here more at Google IO
Mark M.
possibly on the I|O -- depends on whether there are GData APIs or not
it's enough of a developer conference that pure user-facing stuff probably won't get a lot of airtime
though, looking at the topics, it is practically an Android conference
fitz
well that could be there ticket to bigger things at Google
7:50 PM
fitz
so on a side note - are there many business applications out in the market - apps that actually help the business traveler or just games :)
I would think with Tablet out and in due time that business people would want some business apps as well
Mark M.
well, on a percentage basis, I'd say the "business apps" is probably a smaller area than it was on Windows Mobile
fitz
I am thinking on the lines of a light app for cell and full paid version for tablet
Mark M.
I think that free/paid split is a good strategy
by default, the phone app will still be available for tablets, but the "premium" edition would make use of the real estate and add other stuff
fitz
ya and I assume tablet market will not really get cranken till x-mass
Mark M.
agreed
it'll pick up some steam this summer, when more models come out
but serious momentum probably isn't until the holiday season
fitz
was in a hackathon the weekend before you were in CA and google tablet expert was asked how many apps run on it now - he said 8
Mark M.
"run on it" really means "optimized for tablets"
for example, Evernote just pushed out a major update today, but didn't add any tablet-specific support
it runs on a tablet just fine
fitz
so it is super small but he said the market apps will be offered on tablet - so he made it sound like it is a matter of just opening the door
Mark M.
however, they don't make as effective of use of the screen space as they could
7:55 PM
fitz
ok that makes sense
ok well I can drop off and not hold you up today - have a good night
Mark M.
I'm here until 8:30pm Eastern, regardless
some people drop in late
fitz
ok well maybe I will keep open just to observe
will go try the MD5 stuff
8:25 PM
fitz
ok have MD5 - that was fun :)
Mark M.
You have an odd definition of "fun"
fitz
ya it is twisted
8:30 PM
Mark M.
any final questions?
well, that's it for the chat
next one is Thursday at 10am Eastern
have a pleasant day!
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